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$656,000 of Frugal Things I Still Love Doing

“I used to read Mr. Money Mustache”

some people say these days, 

“Until he got all rich and fancy so that he no longer understands the common person’s plight.

Stash probably doesn’t even practice any of these money-saving things he preaches any more!” 

When I read things like this, I can’t help but laugh. Because on the one hand, when you put a bunch of personal life details online like this, being misunderstood is just part of the package. But on the other hand, if the critics could peek in and see our real lives – not just mine but those of all the Mustachians – they would have to give up their conspiracy theories and accept the fact that this stuff just works.

Because really, not much has changed when it comes to the basics. Like many MMM readers over the past twelve years, my total wealth level has increased pretty regularly.  But also like many of us, I haven’t felt the need to change very much about my spending because I was doing my best to live an enjoyable life in the first place.

How have so many people found such great success? I think we Mustachians have something that’s a bit more rare and special than standard financial advice, which is what makes it work so well:

Standard Advice:
Slash your spending and make sacrifices until you reach a certain savings percentage, and beyond that it doesn’t matter, it’s all personal choice. More income? Great, that means you don’t have to sacrifice as much! FatFIRE for everyone!

Mustachianism:
Cultivate a love of efficiency, creativity, self awareness, and self improvement. Use this knowledge to improve your life in all ways, including those which help you live better even as your monthly expense rate drops over time.

So what does this mean in practice? 

Well, I’ll give you some examples from my own present-day life. Things I do because I happen to enjoy them, which also happen to save a lot of money. Some of these are normal, some are silly and may end up in some future gossip magazine hit piece, but all of them happen to work for me, so the critics can be damned.

As I list each item, I’ll include an estimate of how much the activity saves me per decade, because you should always think at least in terms of decades.

To make that calculation yourself, just use the “rule of 172” – take a monthly expense and multiply it by 172 to estimate how much it would compound into over ten years, if invested.

1) Fixing my own House (and everybody else’s too)

Construction projects from recent years, at home and around the state.

I’m a big believer in self-sufficiency, and working to build up the skills to manage the most important parts of your own life without depending on too many things (or people) that are outside of your control. In other words, one giant recipe for a happy life is simply to Become a Producer of the Things You Most Enjoy Consuming.

And in my case, I happen to love houses. I like living in beautiful, functional spaces and sharing them with friends. But most houses are ugly and poorly designed when you buy them, so I realized that I also love solving problems and redesigning old buildings to become new again. I enjoy this process so much that I spend most of my free time doing it – on both my own properties and the homes of friends. 

And I love teaching other people to gain power over their own houses too. It’s amazing how great people feel as they lose their fear and dependence on outside contractors, and gain the ability to fix and maintain things with their own two hands.

Savings: An average of $20,000 per year = $287,000 per decade

2) Craigslist and Community

Members of our coworking space, swapping valuable free stuff every day.

You know what’s great? Having so much money that you can buy whatever you want – high quality things which get delivered to your front door the very next day. 

You know what’s even better? Not buying some of those new things, and instead finding ways to share, repurpose and buy equally high quality items from other people who don’t need them any more. All while building up your own community and creating new friendships in the process.

Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, and even NextDoor all have Buy Nothing groups for most areas. In the MMM-HQ community, we run a Discord server with about 200 local people, who chat around the clock on a wide range of subjects. They help each other with major projects in one channel called #diyhowto, and give away and sell things on #forsale and #buynothing. 

Although our private Discord group is my favorite, I also use Craigslist regularly, and probably save (and earn) a few thousand every year thanks to the habit:

Savings: About $42,000 per decade

3) Bikes over Cars

Sure glad I’m not stuck in a Jeep on these off-road trails!

We all know that Mr. Money Mustache’s biggest contribution to personal finance is to insist that bike transportation is the best way to get around. And I still feel this way. As we learned in The True Cost of Commuting, cars cost at least 50 cents per mile to operate, while bikes are much cheaper, mainly due to reduced depreciation and maintenance costs (which are even bigger than the gas savings).

I do still use bikes (or walking) for at least 95% of my local trips these days, but because I live in the center of a small city, my life is pretty local. So this still only adds up to about 2000 miles per year, a savings of “only” $14,000 per decade.

But when you choose active transportation, there’s much more to the picture than just cutting your car expenses. You’re changing everything about your physical and mental health picture for the better, which brings us to the next point of…

4) Muscle over Motor

Digging out the crappy old window wells to build a bigger terraced garden.

Although I’m no competitive athlete, whenever I see an option to make my body work a bit harder, I usually take it. Stairs instead of elevators, running the golf course instead of using a golf cart, moving my own furniture and appliances instead of calling a mover, shoveling snow and raking leaves instead of using a machine. 

When I face a decision like this, I simply ask myself the question:

“Well, Mustache. Do you want MORE health and fitness, or LESS?”

Putting it in that context makes the answer obvious.  Every bit helps, because when it comes to your body, the rule is pretty much use it or lose it.

But how much money does this save? There’s no real way to calculate it exactly, but I like to think of it this way: The US average health care spending is about $13,000 per person per year. My lifetime costs due to illness or medication so far have been just about zero, plus I know I’ve had more energy and greater productivity due to being healthy. Let’s just put it very conservatively and set the estimated savings and benefits at $10k per year which means

Estimated Savings:  $140,000 per decade.

5) Saving Energy by Running my home like a Glamping Retreat

Outdoor cooking, showering, laundry and even a homemade gym? Why not?!

Here’s where things get a bit silly, but my level of joy is actually at its greatest. 

My personality type is probably a weird combination of an engineer, a carpenter, an artsy hippie, and a mad scientist. Oh, and a devoted homebody too. Because of this, my favorite activity most days is to just run around my house taking care of things and trying new little experiments and improvements.

Sometimes I’ll cut a few big holes on on the South side of the house and install sliding doors and big windows to allow nice sunbeams and passive solar energy to get into my house and give me free heat in the winters. Other times it’s just smaller things to save energy and live more at at one with the seasons of my area:

  • optimizing the use of air conditioning by running fans at night and building heat tolerance during the days (we set the A/C to only kick on at about 80F)
  • Enjoying most of my showers outside, with free hot water from the 100 foot garden hose that happens to be coiled in a sunny spot
  • Cooling myself and get free energy boosts by jumping in the “cold plunge”, which is simply an unheated hot tub I have set up in my back yard
  • Doing most of my cooking and dining outdoors with an induction cooktop, gas grill, espresso machine, and mini convection toaster oven deal that I keep set up outside during the warmer months of the year
  • Drying 99% of my loads of laundry out on the line instead of using the clothes dryer
  • I even charge my car with a little off-grid array of solar panels set up in the driveway (from Craisglist, of course!), which gives me free electricity for driving without going through the permit-hell hassle of a full grid-tied system in my city’s currently solar unfriendly environment.

Even taken all together, these things are pretty small – the average combined gas and electric bill for my area is about $250 per month, while my usage adds up to about $75. So while we’re only saving about $30,000 per decade for what sounds like a lot of work to most people, I consider this to be the biggest win because I enjoy living in “MMM’s Energy Efficiency Playground” so much.

6) Local Living over Constant Travel

This little lake right behind my house is a great daily “vacation” which allows me to savor home life more and travel a bit less.

“Hey, we’re having a big back yard pool party next weekend to celebrate Amy’s graduation from kindergarten, can you make it?”

“OH NOOOO!!! We will be off in at Disneyland that whole week! We planned the trip months ago, I wish we could make it!

As I type this in the height of the summer season, I really feel this effect at its fullest: almost all of my friends are off on trips, and my guest suite here at home is almost constantly full. People are traveling a lot, and many of them sound like they wish they could spend a few more of their precious summer weeks and weekends at home.

I’ll let you in on a little secret: you can! The trick is saying, “no thanks” more often to plans that involve you being away, and “yes please” to things that let you stay at home. The benefits are numerous:

  • You nurture your local friendships more and meet new people who live nearby
  • You spend way less money on plane tickets, hotels, restaurants gasoline, and car repairs
  • Your levels of health and fitness can go way up because you aren’t missing workouts and spending hours sitting in plane and car and bus seats. And you can better control your meals – more salads with grilled salmon, less McDonald’s and Pizza Hut 
  • You sleep better 
  • And you have more time to take care of projects around your house where you learn more skills which compound for life

Estimated Savings: Even if you replace just two weeks of travel for a family of four, with equivalent time at home you might save $5,000 per year in direct costs and a further $5,000 per year in incidental benefits like the health and local friendships. This would work out to a shocking $143,000 per decade of wealth increase! 

Of course, travel is generally a good thing for broadening the life experience of you and your kids. It’s worth spending on, lavishly at times. But the key is to balance it out and be discerning, keeping the most enriching trips and pruning a few off the bottom of the list. And remembering that home time is valuable and healthy too.

And Whoa! We’ve already built up a huge list and I feel like I was just getting started. 

Cutting a friend’s hair at a group event: entertainment, education and free haircut in one!

Taken all together, we’ve already detailed things that compound to $656,000 every decade, which already more than double the median wealth that most American seniors have as they cruise nervously into their retirement years – after over 40 years of work!

And now that I’ve been writing this blog for over ten years myself, I can safely say that over $656,000 of even my most recent worth increases are directly attributable to these simple habits. The same ones many of us have been enjoying and preaching about all along, both before and after our retirement dates.

If money is in genuinely short supply, you could go a lot further than the examples in this article. And indeed, there’s a lot more laid out in this blog or the MMM Boot Camp email series.

But one of the points of Mustachianism is that you usually don’t have to try all that hard. Just tweaking your lifestyle to be slightly less ridiculous and more efficient than average is usually all it takes. 

In the comments: what are your quirks and frugal indulgences? The things you do now to save money, or things you still do even after it’s no longer about the money? I often wonder how widespread this frugality-just-for-fun is. But since we Humans are a naturally curious and problem solving species in our natural state, I suspect there are many more of us out there.

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  • Bryan July 26, 2024, 4:41 am

    I’ve always done cold showers and plunges in my tub with ice so I get confused when I see people buy these cold plunge tanks. Why would you buy that? Just fill up your tub with cold water and put some ice cubes in it and sit back and relax.

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  • PVD Kev July 26, 2024, 6:23 am

    Another classic MMM post, breaking down our daily decisions into ten-year financial returns, thanks! Here are some frugal things that I love doing:

    Home repair, gardening, and cleaning: Yes, I like to clean! And replace the fence that blew down. And weed the garden, and install new walkways, and paint all the trim in the house, install a new toilet, install a new faucet on the clawfoot tub, create and install decorative shelves, etc. etc. etc. I even just sold my home without a listing agent. Average out basic home improvement, gardening, and cleaning to about $500/month (conservatively) that is $43,000 saved (+ the one time $12,000 I saved selling my home myself).

    Cut my own hair: I started this this year and I am excited to save about $4,000 over 10 years on this.

    Drink Cafe Bustelo coffee: In an Aeropress it is a delicious and potent brew, also about $4,000 of decadal savings.

    Play adult soccer: Mixed financial results with bad injuries from time to time that require medical expenses, but surely thousands of dollars saved in cardiovascular health and reduced therapy bills!

    I love reading everyone else’s life hacks that they love.

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  • Annie July 26, 2024, 9:31 am

    I love the home renovation skills and great hack of taking advantage of sun-heated water in a garden hose!
    Over time, the biggest frugal move for us has been to buy used Honda vehicles and drive them into the ground.

    Our best find was a one-owner Odyssey van which we drove to 370,000 miles — took it across the continent and back multiple times — and sold only because it needed a new transmission. Our various Civics and Accords were always driven to more than 250,000 miles. We were excited recently to buy a “young” Odyssey with just 210,000 miles on it. A baby! It would be even better if we could repair these ourselves but second-best has been to have a lifelong relationship with an extremely talented and honest mechanic team that only works on Hondas. They’re legendary in our town, and will tell you what’s worth doing and what can slide. It also helps that we are happy to duct tape splitting seats, permanently seal up a leaky sunroof and shrug off cosmetic body damage. We keep waiting for Honda to bless us with a free vehicle for our loyalty and high-mileage wins but I’m sure we are among many such customers …

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    • Mr. Money Mustache July 26, 2024, 10:34 am

      I admire the idea of keeping vehicles in good repair, but are you doing the math on the fuel consumption and pollution of those big vans? I had an Odyssey too but only used it when its massive capacity was truly maxed out for construction or trips with a lot of stuff6 (and often sleeping in the van too)

      For others reading this who do any commuting or local driving with mostly just people in the car, check out the insanely cheap levels of used electric cars these days! Chevy bolt in particular is long range, roomy, fast, and available in the low $10-15k range. Almost free gasoline forever from any plug in your garage!

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  • Lesley July 26, 2024, 2:38 pm

    Great post. Getting back to the basics. I’m married to a ‘good provider’ and am lucky enough not to have to work. I do live by the 4% rule and run our investments. I love volunteering at my local thrift shop. I’ve been doing it for 10
    years since my mother passed away and I took some of her things in.

    I volunteer between 4-12 hours a week and honestly I get as much out of it on a personal level as the charity does with my time donation.

    I get to do 7-8000 steps which is good for my blood sugars, I buy some great additions to my wardrobe at a fraction of the retail price, I get social contact, I get to hone my commercial skills seeing a live business and be part of a team. I get to do merchandising working with colour which is a creative outlet. I come across all walks of life which keeps me grounded.

    I love my thrift shop volunteering!

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  • Roger May July 26, 2024, 7:47 pm

    Working part time before reaching that magic FI number allows me to do all these activities more easily, and invest more time into where I live and the people nearby, making me content to not travel much. But then when I do want to travel, taking unpaid time off has allowed me to go on multi month trips, which are usually not too expensive because its just a couple flights using miles, and slow travel is usually much cheaper on a daily basis than short trips, and even more so if you’re open to amazing work exchange opportunities. So financially I’m probably in a similar place as I’d be if I were working full time (maybe a little behind), but the life experiences have significantly increased

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  • TeriB July 26, 2024, 10:39 pm

    More shirtless photos please.

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  • Ryan B Erickson July 26, 2024, 11:36 pm

    I will admit my Jeep is a bit ridiculous, but I still try and keep it at least a little more Mustachian by having bought it used and by doing all the oil changes / service / work on it myself…

    :)

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  • Giorgos Geronikos July 27, 2024, 8:20 am

    Hello, MMM! I am a long time reader, always nice to read new articles.

    Why I post this comment: I I always wanted to build my own house, or fix something, i.e. I want to do my own bathroom renovation, but I feel like i would mess up and end up to find a contractor to make it.

    So my question to you and other readers of the blog is, how do i start?

    Any resources, tips etc? Also how you deal with possible faults, mistakes in the process?

    Thank in advance,

    A Mustachian from Greece

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  • David C July 27, 2024, 9:03 am

    Great article! You challenge me to try things and i greatly appreciate that. Keep up the great work!

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  • Jason July 27, 2024, 9:47 am

    Hi MMM,

    I owe you a huge ‘thank you’ and have an incredible amount of gratitude for your well written and thought-provoking posts over the years. I found and consumed your entire blog in the past 3 months and in that short window, your words of wisdom have quickly and profoundly changed my life. Among the many changes you are responsible for are buying a simple, cheap bike (using a credit card rewards program to reduce the cost) to tip-toe into biking to work (in hot Houston), buying a used bike trailer to take my kid to day care, selling an expensive watch which was too extravagant and unnecessary, cutting my internet cost (slower but still plenty fast), cutting my home insurance costs (higher deductible), switching to MINT mobile (from pricey ATT), venturing into the DIY space (first drywall repair of my life), shopping for a lower kWH rate from my power company and cutting the housekeeper and laundry help (yes, two different people came to my home).

    The sum of the impacts from these changes is significant. Your blog has helped an already frugal person realize he can FIRE in 2 years. I have a one year old son and to now think of all the additional time I will be able spend with him, reading to him, taking him for adventures, taking full 3 month summer trips around the country (economically of course) as opposed to a quick weekend here or, at a max, a 2 week trip there as would be required with a job, I feel like I’ve been teleported to a different world with new rules and new opportunities.

    Your work has helped me reframe the idea of a job simply as a train ride. The goal being to hop on the train for a fixed number of years where you earn enough to build your ‘stache’ and then you casually hop off, no matter how much the market will pay you at the end, because it’s all irrelevant at that point. Instead of treating your career as the focus for 45 years of your life (20-65), you treat it simply as a project where you build up skills to earn a favorable income for a fixed amount of time then hop off the train and move on to a different phase of your life.

    Among the most impactful books of my life have been Stephen Covey’s ‘7 Habits’, more recently ‘Your Money or Your Life’ and now I would add your blog to that short list as well.

    To sum up, your blog is a work of art. And importantly, it is additive. There are a number of blogs/podcasts floating around that simply rehash old ideas (eg if people simply read the 7 Habits book, many of these podcasts would be irrelevant). Your art though is additive and is a great contribution to human happiness and our ability to increase our own level of inner peace.

    Sending an enormous ‘thank you’ to you for paving a new way for so many of us by ‘typing sh*t into the computer’ and transforming our lives in the process.

    -Jason

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  • Julia July 28, 2024, 2:52 pm

    Hi there, I’ve been battling debts with Mustachian principles for 6 years now. Switzerland is really a spendy country, so I’m considered a weirdly money-obsessed person by my friends. Here are my frugal habits in the order in which they actually save me money, from most to least:

    1. Not having a living room until my debts are cleared but renting it as a bedroom via Airbnb (1000.- per month).
    (Side benefit: I meet my friends to go for long walks and such)
    2. Meal Prepping lunch instead of eating out (about 10 CHF per day).
    3. Brewing coffee at home and have it with me in a thermos for the whole day (about 8 CHF per day)
    4. Getting 90% of my clothes for free at swapping parties. You’re actually allowed only a maximum of 5 items to BRING! So just taking instead of bringing is very welcome here. I ask each time. And the clothes are always in a better condition than what I usually wear (about 200.- per month).
    5. Getting all home luxuries for free from TV to furniture to gardening stuff) on the Swiss version of Craigslist and free-stuff-telegram channels (about 100.- per month).
    6. Cutting and colouring my hair myself or with a reluctant friend (about 30.- per month).
    7. Almost free hobbies: Long podcast-walks uphill, learning to sew by remaking used clothing, using our phantastic libraries for books but also audio-books via app, building a balcony garden from thrown-away wooden fruit boxes.

    I will definitely keep most of these habits for life, but move away eventually to where there is more affordable living space, where I can house parties and have a guest room. Would love to be connected to anyone from Switzerland who can relate, as I’m feeling rather as an odd ball here. Thanks for reading!

    What I still spend too much money on is expensive rent to stay local and bike everywhere, unavoidable doctor’s visits (expensive as f…), study fees, health insurance (mandatory), and new ideas that sometimes don’t work out (from attending online courses to following a bad business idea or two).

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  • Lori July 28, 2024, 3:47 pm

    Love, love, love this post. Beyond the frugality, there is fun in doing for yourself.

    My particular joy is growing the “fancy” vegetables typically sold at a criminal price. I love an appetizer of seared shishito peppers sprinkled with sea salt and finished with a squeeze of lime. With a bit of planning and patience, a few plants can yield an abundance of delightful little peppers just waiting to be eaten. I’m also a lover of salads and it’s mind blowing the variety of greens that can be grown, way more interesting than the “spring mixes” found in the stores. Throw in a few fun veggies like Kohlrabi and Romanesco, golden beets and Thai eggplants, and the dinner plate gets interesting and infinitely more nutritious and tasty.

    Plus there’s the bonus of getting some light exercise tending the garden, along with the time spend in the fresh air and sunshine. So much up side all for the cost of a few packets of seeds.

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  • Gordo July 29, 2024, 6:50 am

    About vacations… I’ve heard many people say a cruise is a cheap vacation and this always irritates me. Cruises are one of the most expensive vacations out there. Don’t be fooled by marketing and low headline numbers that don’t include all of the expenses. I did some research and found the projected per-passenger, per-day cruise expense is $259.05, based on an average cruise duration of 8.5 days (median duration 7.0 days). For a family of 4 that comes to over $8k. You can do some pretty amazing awesome family vacations for less than $3k so don’t fall into that trap. When comparing options always consider the additional travel costs getting to and from, gratuities, excursions, etc. If you want to be frugal but still have an amazing time and travel, use Google flights to find cheap airfare (or find cool places you can drive to) and various websites to find cheap lodging that has good reviews (or camp some nights to really save). Find low cost excursions/activities with good reviews, national parks and nature activities are often amazing.

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  • Chad August 1, 2024, 12:45 pm

    Thanks for this! Love your posts.

    2 questions:
    1. I’m really curious your outdoor setup to keep those electrical cooking implements outside in the weather.
    2. Also really curious how you connect your off grid solar panels to charge your car. (Perhaps an idea for a future post?)

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  • civilman August 2, 2024, 12:02 am

    Liked the post, love the comments. Reading all the money saving hacks has been incredible. I must share a few that I’m proud of:

    1) DYI home repairs and remodels is a must. If starting with little to no knowledge, find a friend or relative to show you the ropes. If no personal relationships with those that know, school of YouTube! My tip would be not trying to overwhelm yourself with a bunch of new things all at once, try to learn one or two new things each project and ramp yourself up to the bigger ones. On a slight aside, I’m not sure how much money DYI home remodeling saves, because I personally find the money I save doing it myself just leaves more money to do more!…Entertaining yes, fulfilling absolutely, but not great on the wallet. I suppose I’m not great yet at DYI SELF-control…maybe that should be a new MMM article.

    2) Clothes line-drying. My electric dryer by a mile uses more electricity than anything else I own. Line drying saves energy, saves money, and I find personally quite cathartic. I have solar, but I determined I would have needed an extra panel just to keep up with the electric dryer which would have more than an extra $1000

    3) Facebook Marketplace for buying furniture. My wife and I bought a lot of furniture right after college that served us well for over 15 years. As you grow and become real adults after college, you wonder what the hell you were thinking with furniture choices. Rather than spend 10s of thousands on furniture from Crate and Barrel and West Elm, we learned buying real wood furniture on Facebook marketplace and refinishing gave us what we needed/wanted for pennies on the dollar….this also lead me to a little bit of a hobby in between bouts of becoming broke via DYI home renovations, buying furniture that have broken handles or drawer slides, or scratches, fixing and or refinishing and selling….keeps me entertained and makes me a couple grand a year rather than having a hobby that costs me money instead.

    4) Learn to cut your own hair, especially if you have kids. I cut my hair every six weeks which saves about $20 per month I’m guessing; (3) boys cutting hair every 2 to 3 months saves another average $20 per month I’m guessing (not sure how much it costs these days for hair cuts).

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  • Johnny Money August 2, 2024, 7:52 am

    Great Article, and congrats on the decades of staying power, that’s when it really pays off!
    I did the Insulation project in my home, taking it from 8″ to 14″, and total cost was appx $750 and about 10 hrs labor including my friend’s help. Stilll don’t need AC while living in denver, Hah!
    Bikes and a fantastic place to invest effort, whether commuting, training, or fixing bikes up for others to ride – that’s my current focus, renovating serviceable, affordable, economical transportation options for city dwellers down at the Denver Bike Shop downtown. No car, but I get lots of construction materials on my ebike / trailer combo, or borrow my roomates car once a month or less for heavier things. Lowes delivers! Nerxt larger projects in to spec and get Solar Panels installed at 130% of my current consumption, in case I ever do really need some split mini heatpumps in the future. That would eliminate my gas bill, which peaks near 200$/month in the cold months here.
    And GARDENING! That’s an excellect use of time, produces the BEST Produce, and can be done in any small yard or community garden. Food, sun, community and nutrition – what else do you want?

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  • Lizzie August 6, 2024, 1:31 pm

    Doing most of that! On travel specifically, I used to travel a lot, piggybacking on work travel to get the transportation free and blowing all my vacation days that way. That all came to an abrupt stop due to COVID, and it really made me re-evaluate what I was getting out of it.

    My one very weird efficiency quirk, probably not saving all that much: I hate buying anything that’s mostly water. People have lugged that shit, at a minimum, halfway around the country, for just a few % of active ingredients and mostly water, when the tap’s full of it.
    So: drinking water comes out of the tap obviously; for sparkling I make kefir; for (rare) alcohol I get beer from a brewery next door that’s run by a friend (I live in Belgium, breweries all over); solid soap, shampoo & conditioner (found very gentle ones after a bit of trial and error), making most of my cleaning products DIY from powders (citric acid, baking soda, caustic soda, percarbonate, salts, cornmeal for texture…). That last one probably does save a bit of money actually, a lot of those products are quite overpriced.

    And it saves some time & energy on shopping trips I guess? All by bike, so not about the money either, but the time saving from going less often are a bit more significant (I meal prep & freeze/pickle, so my carrying capacity is the main factor in how often I go), and probably the blood pressure health improvements from saving me the aggravation of all those slow people blocking the aisles lol.

    The friends and colleagues definitely do not get it – it’s nice to find the like-minded weirdos in here!

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  • Brad August 7, 2024, 8:00 am

    I don’t usually comment here, but, this post makes me say F-Yeah! I just can’t believe you have stuck to posting after all these years. Good on you man.

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  • April August 7, 2024, 1:23 pm

    It is great if you love to do that kind of stuff, and I admire the willingness and tenacity. On the other hand, by following Mustachian style life for a couple of years and building up a 7-figure portfolio so my spouse could exit the workforce to find his inner peace, I find this lifestyle unattractive. As long as you save a good portion of your money and invest wisely, there is no point at least for me to push yourself to the extremes to basically living a life as many people in the developing countries do (where I am originally from), like not enjoying the convenience of a car, a dryer, machines, DIY everything simply because labor is super expensive and the service you get sucks a lot of times in North America, or giving up long distance traveling (it is annoying to travel with a car in the US though), etc. There are many ways to reach FIRE, if you embrace bad assity, fine, but if you don’t like it, don’t kill yourself for it. FIRE is only a tool to get your time back to yourself, not the goal.

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  • Dimitrii August 7, 2024, 11:59 pm

    Hello, Pete . You know people read your blog all-over the world, but I guess you don’t see many Russians in your comments.
    Well , what I have to say …this stuff works everywhere and works just fine .
    Have been reading your blog for 6 or 7 years . Always been frugal but your blog boosted it even further . Fired 3 years ago , happy living ever after….
    All the stuff you write about is great but idea of renting out houses is the best for me . Built three small houses in my town (2 – 50 sq meters and 1 house 85 meters , not sure in square feet , I guess 450 and 750 sq feet) and now rent them out for nights . Sort of like small hotel . It went great , yields around 20% return yearly plus I have a lot fun meeting and talking to new people . Also all the new knowledge I had to learn from marketing to people to getting things fixed around the house ….
    Still jump to your blog right away when the new article hits the mailbox.
    Thanks for everything,man !!!! Please don’t ever stop writing, we got so dependant on it ….

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  • Debbie M August 8, 2024, 3:45 pm

    Unusual things I do:

    * I always have a roommate. Admittedly, I’ve been lucky in never having a bad one, and I love the free socializing (for everyone else, I basically have to make an appointment).

    * I mostly walk and take a bus. But I do have a car for locational freedom–I have friends and a few other favorites who are across town and my city has terrible bus service, but I can now get to my doctor and a few other places halfway across town by bus. Oh, I only buy reliable-model decent-mileage cars that are ten years old and keep them as long as possible. Yes, my next one, if I get another one, will be electric.

    * I spend almost zero on clothes. I rarely buy any; when I do, most of it’s from thrift stores. And I finally figured out how to darn a sock so I can still wear it comfortably (using thin yarn, not thread!). We even have a “creative reuse” store for thrifted craft supplies.

    * I go to the library or borrow books from friends to read new-to-me books; I buy only the ones I know I’ll want to read over and over, and then I’ll go to a used book store if possible, then I’ll try buying direct from the author. Reading books recommended by friends leads to socializing! (And I do read over 100 books a year; now I’m trying to find fund books about and/or set in every country, as well as other recommended books.)

    * I don’t drink sodas or consume alcohol, coffee, other mind-altering drugs. Except sugar. Mmm, baked goods! I mostly cook them myself (although, there’s this one bakery…). Also, FYI, chocolate chips are cheaper per unit volume than chocolate bars.

    * When I do eat out, I bring my own storage containers for leftovers. For some places, I also bring my water bottle and cloth napkins to not have to use disposables. I often have a water bottle with me as well as ear plugs and a face mask.

    * I use cloth hankies (my favorites are made from the parts of old flannel nightgowns or sheets that are still in good shape–so soft!). Weirdly, my nose no longer gets dried and cracked when I have a bad cold like when I used disposable tissues. I also use a sponge instead of paper towels for most things.

    * For many repairs, I’ll pay my roommate to do them by buying him the tools he wants for it.

    * Like others, I cut my own hair–it saves money, I don’t have to make an appointment, and I don’t have to wonder how it’s going to turn out. I also don’t dye it–the gray is approaching the half-way point!

    * I turn off the shower while I’m soaping up or shaving. I do heat the water before I step in, but catch it in an old milk jug to water my plants. This reminds me to water my plants, so it’s a 2-in-one thing. (I also do standing lunges while tooth brushing.)

    * I now use the solid pH-balanced shampoos and conditioners from Ethique (admittedly on another continent) and bar soap instead of liquid–it lasts so much longer! And they’re good for travel, too.

    * I knit hand towels, sweat rags, and storage cases for things like glasses and small electronics.

    * I line-dry clothes–the stretchy things actually last a lot longer now. (Actually I use a drying rack indoors because the fresh scent everyone likes just smells like wet dog to me!) I never have to do more than one load a day, because only one load fits (though I do have a spare rack if I really want to do more).

    * I’m also in a club of people doing adult merit badges (don’t want to advertise, but there’s only one). The author of the badge books and most of the members live in Great Britain, so, especially for the Baker Badge, there’s a lot of cultural learning, plus people share good ideas online.

    I like the idea to produce what you most like consuming. I’m good with the cooking, grooming, and housework, but decided to look at what I’m still spending and I don’t see myself doing most of things things:

    * income tax – I’m not allowed to do my own governing and don’t want to, though of course most of my savings is in tax-advantaged accounts.

    * property tax – Again with the governing. I did buy a house that was only 60% of the median price.

    * utilities – I have a lot of room for improvement–I’m trying to ease away from natural gas (which was better than coal-produced electricity, but worse than electricity from solar and wind, especially now with all the fracking) and think about going solar. We have weatherized the house, keep it as hot as my roommate can stand in the summer and as cold as I can stand in the winter. And I’m always looking for electricity-free ways to do things. I use a fork instead of a mixer, a cheese grater or hand-powered food processor instead of an electric one, and a manual can opener.

    * groceries – oh, I am so happy to pay farmers to do that work!! I do cook and do some processing (like grating my own parmesan), and I’m always on the lookout for frugal and/or healthy swaps in what I eat. And I do check out the clearance sections and stock up on staples when they’re on sale. I have a yard–it’s made of hard clay, with some rock mixed in, and every imaginable invasive sticky weed. I despise gardening. So much plant murder!

    * charitable contributions – I totally want to pay experts to do some of those tough things they do. I also do some free things like donate blood and scraping labels off glass jars to donate to the creative reuse place.

    * homeowner’s and car insurance – at least they have high deductibles. Also flood insurance because my backyard fence is the border of a 100-year flood plain and the other side is a flat apartment complex parking lot at the same altitude. (Oops–always check maps instead of just researching whether the address is in a flood plain!) But I do get free health insurance from the job I retired from (though I’ll have to pay for Social Security in a few years), I don’t have life insurance (no dependents), and I self-insure for dental and vision costs–while not falling for the problem of ignoring regular cleanings and checkups.

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  • Rose August 12, 2024, 7:45 am

    Cold showers, A/C set at 78 during the summer and me and the kids use fans at night, laundry dried outside instead of using the dryer. My strangest one is probably having a bucket in the kids shower-they want warm water so while the water warms up I capture it in a large Home Depot bucket,I use that water to water my plants outside.

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  • Frank Thun August 14, 2024, 1:25 am

    Your voice, MMM, is heard in Germany, too. For the last 8 years, I have read your blog, which has supported my transition to an amazingly enriching life ethic similar to yours. It’s not about the money, guys. I mean, it is too – but by learning to value different things than money, money ceases to be much of a problem. Cheers to the community from old Europe!

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  • Gary August 14, 2024, 11:24 am

    Biking everywhere possible, enjoying reading on a park bench, volunteering, teaching myself yoga, and packing a snack bag everywhere I go. Love it, and it’s things I don’t see changing even with the $$$

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  • poohstix August 14, 2024, 9:18 pm

    Whenever I try to do my own home improvement projects, it actually turns out more expensive and worse/uglier than if I had hired someone else to do it. Why? Because as someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing, I need to learn, but as I learn, I go through material, resources, and time. I get materials and mess up, so I need to get more materials and do it all over again, or do some sort of corrective intervention. Sometimes I get the materials that don’t work out and end up having to ferry them back to where I got them. A common apotheosis is that I have to call in an expect anyway to fix my mistakes.

    I have a similar issue with my garden. I’ve crunched the numbers, and I’ve spent more this year on making it look not-feral than I could have done on a landscaping crew. Not because I was doing anything fancy or excessive. But because I didn’t know what I was doing and made mistakes along the way.

    No, thank you. I am not happy for the wasted money and time. I haven’t really gained many skills — I still think an expert can do it better, faster, and cheaper. Rather than banging my head against the wall, I’d rather do a bit more of the job I’m already good at and hire someone who knows what they’re doing. That’s my form of optimization.

    There *are* some things I can do as well as a professional in the field — these include grooming pets, doing hair and nails, cooking. I’ll never pay another person to do any of these things if I can help it. But unfortunately, something going wrong with my house or property is a near-inevitability, and I’ve tried, and I just *can’t* do it myself.

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  • Johnny Money August 28, 2024, 10:24 am

    -Yes on the bikes, homes, play it again sports, National Park Camping/hiking/biking/boating!

    -I’m focused on trying to help jumpstart a M-Cubed club in Denver. I’ve got lots to offer, including mead, honeybee care & bee packages, bodywork and yoga instruction. I’ve got an awesome trade with a local yoga instructor, and sell honey for cash or venmo. I’m an experienced bike mechanics w tools. Also, an old time home renovator and landscraper.

    Your technique of self-reflexively talking to yourself is very powerful. “Do I want to memorize game of thrones, or the mtb trails nearest my home?” Path less travelled, or follow the herd? Does this product/activity lead to killing baby seals? I do my best to “Leave no Trace”. Obviously as a westerner, I have a large footprint by birth. I do my best to offset that through consumption patterns and permaculture in my back yard. I think of myself as an ascetic, labor and consumption wise, but might be seen as a bohemian by the way I live.

    I am grasping around for more people that want to adopt this style of FIRE or Mustachianism. Mustach Bar or Cafe? FB groups? I’ll sign up on Dischord and see if there’s anything there I can join…

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  • GeneP September 1, 2024, 4:21 pm

    Great post MMM! Glad to hear that you haven’t gone all Mr. fancy Pants on us after all.

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  • Pico September 12, 2024, 11:45 am

    Shout out Jersey! Earlier this year I went on my first cruise to Alaska. It was one of the most beautiful places I have been to. But only a couple weeks ago I traveled to upstate NY to see some of their state parks. I was blown away! You don’t need to fly across the country to see breathtaking nature. Most times its just a car ride away.

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