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How to Navigate the Tariff Circus

Quite accidentally, it looks like we timed our last talk about the stock market pretty darned well. Back in February 2025, the market put the perfect cap on a multi year climb before stepping onto the wild roller coaster we’re currently riding. Since then it has seen some of the steepest drops and recoveries in history, losing a full 20% of its value at the bottom while somehow managing to end up right back near the peak as I’m writing this.

And although stock market volatility doesn’t always come with an easily labeled explanation, this time the reason seems pretty clear: it’s the Tariffs.

As our financial world has been whipped around like a circus tent in a hurricane for the last several months, almost everyone who has a stake in this country has been wondering what to make of it.

  • Can our president really unilaterally impose 145% tariffs on almost everything from our biggest supplier?
  • And if so, is it really going to happen?
  • And if so, what is the point? Aren’t free trade and low prices a good thing?
  • And perhaps most importantly, what would the long-term effects on our economy and stock market be under varying levels of tariffs?

As I write this, we still don’t know the outcome of the worldwide tariff and trade battle that our unpredictable government has unleashed upon the world. But we’re already seeing the results: businesses are bracing for massive changes, currencies and interest rates are reacting, and regular investors like you and me are wondering what the future holds for our early retirement funds. Surveying my own group of friends, the reactions span the whole range of emotions from “this is a giant Nothingburger” to “we’re all totally screwed.” 

So what’s the real answer? To get closer to that, we should start with the most basic question of:

What is a Tariff?

A tariff is just a sales tax charged by our government on goods which are imported into the country.  They are paid by whoever is doing the importing – meaning you if you order something like an e-bike directly from a company in China, or by companies like Amazon, Walmart, or Apple which import products from other countries by the shipload. 

But in the end, the tariffs aren’t paid by China or Amazon or Apple. They are paid by you, the end consumer, because if their cost of goods increases, a retailer is of course going to raise their prices to continue to make a profit.

Tariffs also affect companies directly: if Home Depot wants to build a new store or Chevron needs a new oil rig, the tariffs on imported steel, copper, lumber and a million other components will raise the cost of these construction projects. And they raise the cost of housing, because most of the building materials in houses come from multiple countries as well.

On average, tariffs will result in higher prices for everything just like any other broad-based sales tax. And just like most other taxes, the overall effect is to slow the economy and reduce our spending power. On the positive side, all that tax money flows into the government’s pocket which could help fund the national budget and even reduce the deficit.

Of course, every government needs at least some tax revenue to function, so it makes sense to use some mix of sales, income and corporate taxes to get there. The most important part is that the levels need to be as low as possible while still keeping the country running well, and as fair and predictable as possible, so that people and businesses have an incentive to work hard and the ability to plan far into the future. 

And that’s where our current tariff regime gets it completely backwards. Donald Trump is throwing around random, extremely high tariff numbers as threats, then walking them back and changing them on an almost daily basis.. 

Whoa, that Sounds Mostly Bad – Is There a Good Side of Tariffs?

Sometimes, a country will use tariffs to protect their own domestic industries. For example, if you put a tax on imported Hondas, then General Motors cars will gain a competitive advantage – so GM will make more money. In this example, most consumers end up losing due to increased prices and decreased selection. But at least domestic auto manufacturers and their employees are happy.

This can be strategic (for example we might want to slap a tax on imported fighter jets to make sure Boeing and Lockheed can remain in business, for national defense purposes.) Or it can be corrupt (a politician might receive funding from kingpins in the steel industry, and in return then push through tariffs on imported steel to protect the profits of US steelmakers.) 

And this isn’t just a Trump or Republican thing either – Joe Biden used tariffs during his terms in an attempt to please swing-state voters. One of the worst examples was a tax on imported solar panel components (which Trump has since raised even further, proving that Boneheadedness can be Bipartisan). These are sheets of cheap glass that literally pump the cheapest energy and easiest wealth into your country for 30 years as soon as you plug them in. Cheap energy lowers everyone’s cost of living while also boosting industry. There is no good reason to block such wealth from flowing across your borders.

Can Tariffs Bring Us More Jobs?

Let’s go back to that hypothetical tax on Hondas, and let’s say it’s a big one like $5000. At that level, many buyers will start heading over to the GM dealer next door to consider what he’s selling. Sure, the GM cars may not be as good, but for five grand some people are going to settle in order to save some money.

Because of this, GM’s sales go up. So they hire more employees and build more factories. They might even develop some new models and new technologies in response to all that new demand. More people learn advanced skills and in the best case it becomes a virtuous circle.

But in exchange for this boom in the auto industry, everyone else has to pay more for slightly shittier cars and trucks. Higher vehicle prices means Amazon will have to spend more on their delivery fleet, so they will raise prices slightly on everything they sell. Somewhere a startup company or a medical breakthrough will be just a bit less likely to happen, because they are operating in an environment that is just a bit more expensive and a bit less efficient.

On top of that, with GM liberated from the hassle of competing with Honda, it will have less incentive to innovate and streamline itself. So its overall trajectory will be slower and less efficient even if its profits are higher.

This big picture effect is why most economists agree that tariffs should be used very sparingly. They almost always cause unexpected damage, decrease overall employment and slow down an economy, but sometimes (like for food security or national defense) those costs are worth paying.

So Why is Donald Trump Throwing Around Tariffs Like They Are The Best Thing Ever?

This has been confusing to almost everyone. If you take him at his word, he appears to have a Bizarro Opposite Universe belief system about economics. Donald has claimed in speeches that the tariffs will somehow make us wealthier. He’s focusing on the first-order effects like GM hiring more workers, while completely ignoring the fact that everything else in the country gets less efficient in exchange. 

But when he announces larger tariffs, share prices go down, because everyone who actually runs or invests in US companies knows that of course they will make less money on average. When tariffs are paused or reduced, share prices go back up. Yet he keeps wielding the threats and we go back and forth. 

It seems to be obvious to everyone except Donald himself that Tariffs are just a national sales tax rather than some clever sneaky strategic weapon, which leads to various theories that okay, maybe he knows that too but is just pretending in order to gain some influence. 

The basic theory goes like this:

  • Unfettered power: normally, a president can’t impose taxes without the approval of congress. But there’s a loophole to that: a president can unilaterally impose taxes under the disguised name of “tariffs” in the case of an “emergency”. Furthermore, another loophole exists: there’s no strict definition of “emergency” – so if you just invent a fake one you can start imposing tariffs until congress eventually catches up to you. Which may not be for years.
  • As a Negotiating tactic: although the primary victim of tariffs is US consumers and businesses, they can also harm our trading partners, because if you impose a high enough tax on Chinese goods, we’ll buy a lot less of them. So now you have unfettered power which you can wield against your foes, as a way of getting them to do stuff  for you.
  • As a way of controlling domestic companies: if you can cut off the lifeblood of any company (their supply chain) with just a quick post on your Truth Social account, you’re suddenly in control of the whole economy. Nobody can oppose you because you can put them out of business immediately. 

So right now our entire economy is subject to the whims of a single person.. And as long as this is the case, we’re just the same as any other dictatorship – something our constitution was supposed to prevent with the whole “three independent branches of government” thing. 

But presidents have tried to break out of their constitutional cage and get more power many times in the past, and this is just the latest example. The real test will be if our system eventually manages to stop this abuse and put itself back in balance as it always has in the past. You can already see this fight beginning to play out in our court system, in this Economist article:

How Big are the Tariffs Right Now?

Even without the 145% nonsense numbers that were thrown around a few months ago, they are still far higher than they have been in the last 75 years or more. While it would be hard to pin down the current numbers in a stationary blog post like this one, the key thing to remember is that our current US economy is built around very low tariffs and relatively free trade. 

175 years of Tariff history (source: The Economist)

Why haven’t I noticed Prices Going Up Yet?

While the US economy is fueled by a constant stream of cargo ships, as a whole we function like the biggest cargo ship of all: we have a huge inventory and it takes a while to change directions.

So in normal times, we already have several months of inventory of most things in the country. And then when all this drama started, importers started placing even more orders to stockpile things in advance before the tariffs hit. And now that they are in place, we’re importing a lot less stuff.

Source: the super interesting Freightwaves Ocean Shipping index (OSI)

For now, we’re still using up the stockpiled inventory, but imports have dropped significantly so we’re quickly running out of cheap goods. If that happens, we will probably start seeing shortages and price increases throughout this summer or fall. For some things like plastic party trinkets, we can do just fine without. But if we lose access to core useful things like tools and machinery, the economic consequences will be much less fun.

The Dark Side and the Bright Side

The most important phrase to remember in US politics and economics is the phrase “This too shall pass.” The only mystery right now is that we don’t know exactly how it will pass. So we could sketch out a few scenarios:


1) The current crazy-high tariffs really do stick around:

I personally think this is the less likely scenario because nobody really wants it. But just as a thought experiment, it might go something like this:

  • 2025 inflation would more than double as the tariffs add about 4% to prices
    (because imports are roughly 25% of our overall spending, and current tariffs are about 16% higher than before. 0.25 * 0.16 = 0.04)
  • Lots of companies will make changes. Those most dependent on cheap imports from China might simply go out of business. Some companies will shift to suppliers in lower-tariff countries.
  • In some cases, US factories will benefit. We’ll produce more steel and certain auto parts here, but you’re not going to see a million factories popping up to make Nike shoes or microwave ovens – those things will just get a lot more expensive to buy. 
  • Demand for unpleasant, repetitive low-wage unpleasant factory work will increase, which should help raise the whole lower-income wage pool. But the cost of living for these people might more than outstrip these wage gains. Plus, those jobs will eventually phase back out as manufacturers continue to build robots to automate those jobs.
  • Other countries will continue to retaliate with tariffs on US goods, which means our exporting companies will lose revenue. For just one fun example, Canada recently imposed a 100% tariff on Tesla cars from the US, almost completely destroying that company’s Canadian sales overnight.
  • Government tariff revenue could go up by about $640 billion annually (about 15 percent of our total budget), but the reduction of economic activity and exports would reduce income tax revenue by an unknown amount – possibly an even bigger number.

2) They do end up being just a negotiating tactic and we go back to mostly low tariffs.

  • The stock market would stage an enormous “relief rally”
  • Companies will gradually start to relax and go back to the way they were, allowing for more planning and hiring to resume
  • We will escape with just a few hundred billion dollars of lost economic activity and a moderately large hit to our credibility as a nation, which will fade over time just like everything in politics
  • Some of the “deals” which are part of the negotiations (for example, lower tariffs in other countries) may have benefits for US exporters, helping boost our future trade

In other words, the best way to win the tariff game is not to play it.

Just as much of US prosperity is built upon our huge population of 330 million people living in 50 states with open borders and no trade restrictions, all (friendly) countries of the world can benefit from the free exchange of goods, services and even people. We’re all human beings and if we treat each other with a collaborative respect, we all grow richer.

Epilogue: Is it Almost Over Already?

I started writing this article on April 2nd, when Donald announced his “Liberation Day” and the stock market reacted with the biggest drop since 1932. Some people panicked and locked in big losses despite decades of warnings from your favorite financial bloggers, like this unfortunate soul in the comments to a JL Collins post:

Nooooo!

But as I watched over the next two months, we have bounced our way back up – with each drop in proposed tariffs triggering a corresponding increase in stock prices (a measure of investor enthusiasm of how bright our future looks).

Right now, the US stock market is just about back to its all-time high. This doesn’t match with our current level of tariffs, which are still about seven times higher than they were before the circus opened. But it shows that investors believe it’s all going to end with a truce and a resumption of free-ish international trade.

If they’re wrong, the roller coaster ride will still have some more fun in store for us. But as long as we eventually end our current experiment in “emergency” tariff dictatorship and get back to functioning as a democracy, things should be just fine in the long run. I’m still 100% invested myself, so that’s where I place my bet.

The Biggest Lesson: Don’t Form Your Opinions Based on News Headlines

Decades ago in a brighter age of journalism, there may have been a time when headlines were designed primarily to inform us, with just a bit of sizzle and spice to pull in our attention. Unfortunately, nowadays the priorities have flipped where the primary goal is attention, and accuracy carries little or no weight. Even a totally inaccurate article makes money for the publisher.

Two media outlets, living in two different worlds

So while Democrats and Republicans like to do battle over which media sources are biased, in reality they’re all wrong: all click-funded commercial media is biased – sometimes politically but even more importantly biased towards generating outrage and fear, because those generate more money.

There are two solutions to this:

1) Either ignore the media completely and focus on your own life, or

2) Become a subject matter expert on things you really care about, and then read the original sources whenever you want to learn about something.

I mostly practice option #1, but as a science and technology nerd I get into #2 in just the areas I find most interesting. And it’s amazing how the more deeply you understand a subject, the more you see just how wrong most media stories are about your area of expertise. Which means they’re probably pretty wrong about almost everything.

So as always, with this lesson learned it’s time to shut down that phone and laptop, exhale all our worries and get back outside with your real-life family and friends. See you in a few months!

Related:

Why We Are Not Really All Doomed – the original all-purpose MMM article which explains why we never really have to worry about the long-term economic future. 

  • The Orchard June 13, 2025, 3:42 pm

    There’s one more possible reason for the tariffs that you didn’t mention: Trump might be running a giant pump-and-dump scheme on the entire U.S. economy.

    It’s very possible that he’s tipping off his pals right before he announces new tariffs, so they can buy at a bargain when the stock market drops. Then, when they want to sell, he cancels the tariffs so the market bounces back up. It wouldn’t be any more outrageous or corrupt than some of the other things he’s doing openly.

    Of course, Mustachians who don’t overreact to the news aren’t affected by this! This is why long-term buy-and-hold is the right strategy, even when we have a tinpot tyrant with delusions of royalty at the helm.

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    • Matt June 13, 2025, 4:21 pm

      Quite possibly: covered by @unusual_whales on X, a lot of people have made a lot of money….

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  • Dominick Paolino June 13, 2025, 3:53 pm

    So why is inflation not exploding now? The last reading was very good.

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    • Mr. Money Mustache June 13, 2025, 5:53 pm

      Great question – I tried to cover this in the article under the heading, “Why haven’t I noticed prices going up yet?”

      First of all, most of the tariffs (or threatened tariffs) haven’t even hit yet.

      But even when they do, the end result will be a bit unpredictable. Importers can of course shift supply to countries with lower tariffs or even domestic suppliers. Consumers will also react to rising prices by scaling back their spending, which shifts prices back down the supply/demand curve a little.

      In the extreme case, high tariffs can even cause a recession which lowers demand for almost all goods and services, which means that prices for domestically produced services with elastic pricing might go down and bring the overall inflation numbers back in check. In other words, some people lose their jobs so on average there’s less money being spent on restaurants -> restaurants have to lower their prices.

      Heck, in a good enough recession even house prices and rents will drop, which is the biggest factor in the inflation basket.

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  • Scott Trench June 13, 2025, 4:15 pm

    One interesting note, on top of your spot on analysis of the impact of tariffs, is how hard economic data, as traditionally collected, is to interpret in 2025.

    Specifically, the unemployment rate is really interesting to me.

    Clearly, the prevailing sentiment is that it’s a tough market out there for most (but not all) employees. At BiggerPockets, we were getting TONS of applicants for every available job posting for months.

    But, yet, the employment reports show low unemployment, and jobs added with each passing month. What gives?

    I believe that the answer lies in the gig economy and with self-employed workers. There are some 50 million Americans working gig work, self-employed, or who work as contractors. Contrary to popular belief, there are many of this cohort who actively choose that lifestyle and prefer it over a full-time job, getting a better mixture of total income and flexibility.

    However, when that work becomes harder and harder, and it is no longer feasible to support yourself or your family on your combined uber, amazon delivery, lyft, and doordash routine, you begin to take that unappealing job for $45K per year.

    You are now worse off, in terms of total income and flexibility.

    But the employment report shows it as a net positive.

    I believe that this effect does two things:

    1) Presents a false view of the economy as healthier than it actually is.
    2) Gives the federal reserve free reign to be extra cautious about lowering rates – inflation is a bigger threat than the “jobs” report that they are mandated to watch.

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    • Mr. Money Mustache June 13, 2025, 5:43 pm

      Interesting thoughts and observations from your company experience, Scott – thanks for sharing!

      I remember during the earlier 2020s, there were lots of stories about companies having trouble finding employees to work even as they ratcheted up their salary offers. Would you say this era is mostly over?

      And to escape from excessive reliance on anecdotes, what national data should we be looking at to get the whole story?

      Would it be inflation-adjusted median hourly wages? Or annual income? What’s the latest reading on this key stat and does it line up with the Gig Economy stories?

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  • Tomas June 13, 2025, 4:15 pm

    Thanks M^3! Words of wisdom as always

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  • John McCormick June 13, 2025, 4:16 pm

    As a small business owner, I’ve been getting a steady stream of emails from suppliers: “Prices are going up due to new tariffs.” Then a week later—“Actually, never mind, we’re adjusting those increases based on the latest White House post.”
    It’s a mess. But what really struck me is the hidden cost behind all this: the sheer amount of mental and administrative energy now being burned just trying to make sense of it all. – How much of the increase do we eat? How much do we pass on? Do we switch suppliers? When do we pull the trigger?

    Multiply that chaos across most businesses in the country (and beyond), and you’ve got millions of hours of productive work redirected into tariff math. No new value created—just friction. Just one more example of how uncertainty—especially when it’s self-inflicted—is a huge drag on the real economy.

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  • Farhan K June 13, 2025, 4:40 pm

    For those of us who were planning to FIRE, these are tricky times. You are absolutely right that ‘this too shall pass’ but what are your thoughts on the sequence of returns risk? What would you recommend someone retiring soon do? By the way, I did take your advice from a youtube video you had made years ago about cash reserves and opened up a HELOC to tap into my home equity to ride out the down market if needed. I am also holding 1 1/2 years worth of fixed income and rest is in SP500 index funds.

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  • RedWave June 13, 2025, 4:50 pm

    Interesting thread about what could happen. Trump is much more of a negotiator than we have seen. I like his direction and wanting to put America first on the global trade market. All that he has thrown out as numbers have yet to really impact the market other than talk and commentary. Too many literal takes on his style and approach but no emphasis on the results. Seems like a comparison of our countries debt to the literal “hair on fire” approach has yet to be made but those typically get stepped over for more narrative supporting content.

    I feel it better to retrospectively look at past assumptions given the data you had at the time and see if it was spot on with your predictions. Your past inflation article seems to not be as relevant anymore given the political shift, but it was timed just just before election season so then there is that.

    I guess time will tell how any of this plays out. Which I guess should be the ultimate message.

    I would be interested in a follow up write up whether your assumptions were correct/incorrect given the data you had and if the blue blinders and OMB syndrome impacted your viewpoints. We can’t politically get along if EVERYTHING one person does is considered evil/bad/corrupt/suspect/etc. This post seems to be adding fuel to that fire.

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    • Mr. Money Mustache June 13, 2025, 5:35 pm

      Haha RedWave, it sounds like you see things from a very Red/Blue political lens, and you are assuming that I do too.

      For example, my article on inflation wasn’t timed for the election or politically motivated. Rather, it was a primer on what the news media seemed to be overlooking – the ACTUAL MEANING, DATA AND HISTORY OF US INFLATION!

      In reality, I don’t give a shit about parties or politicians or red or blue – just the policies themselves. I favor a lot of the core US values like letting people and businesses do their thing without undue intervention (while trying to keep regulation mostly to things that negatively effect other people such as pollution). Because of this I also favor free trade, constitutional separation of powers, and a reliable set of rules that we can all follow – enforced by a trusted justice system. Donald Trump, if judged by his own words, is not governing by these principles, although some other Republican presidents/candidates have done better.

      For what it’s worth I also disagree with plenty of the things Democrats do and support too – like the crazy anti-business soup that spews from UAW President Sean Fain’s mouth! If I were to write up a political platform, I’d never get elected because I wouldn’t be willing to pander to all the weird shit that decides the votes in our battleground states, both Red and Blue.

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  • Aaron June 13, 2025, 4:52 pm

    This article seems to be as much about Presidential Power as it is about tariffs.
    “Emergency Powers” and all that.
    I’m more disturbed about that than I am about the tariffs.

    Tariffs are a consumption tax, so if they stick around at a higher rate, we all have one more excuse to buy even less than we already do.

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  • Derek June 13, 2025, 5:15 pm

    I suspect that Mr. Money Mustache and I would energetically disagree on many things political, but his conclusion in this case is spot on. Every subject matter expert I know absolutely cringes when the media covers his area of expertise, so it’s logical to extrapolate that across the board.

    Live your life. The world isn’t going to end. And if I’m wrong and we’re on that trajectory, is it within your locus of control? Also, consider that the people who really *do* control things have a vested interest in maintaining our system from which we have all benefited. No need to hyperventilate. Get some popcorn and watch the show.

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  • dws June 13, 2025, 5:47 pm

    Ah yes, basic economics, unfortunately not so common sense these days

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  • Nathan June 13, 2025, 5:51 pm

    One additional chapter of this excellent article could be that as we wait for DJT to pull all of this back, like he always does, we have an incredibly easy MMMesque task at hand. Don’t buy anything. All of our bristling money mustaches are well suited to the task of a temporary flexible increase in frugality. Not good for the economy and not good for those that need a leg up, but I for one have been practicing for this moment since Pete started this ridiculous and ridiculously useful blog.

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  • Robert June 13, 2025, 6:21 pm

    This is an interesting analysis. The way I summed it up to an acquaintance is that Trump is playing with fire. In the end, it may be that we have something nice and shiny as a result. However, it is just as likely (if not more) that this whole thing is a dumpster fire and in the end it will just a smoking heap of ash.

    However, the more fundamental problem here is that the reason that things like this (i.e., Trump unilaterally going tariff-nuclear, which is actually quite similar to what Biden did trying to illegally wipe out student loan debt, it’s just that Trump’s actions are at a different order of magnitude) is because Congress actively refuses to do their jobs. In the last several decades they have rather been rather determined to pass really loose/broad laws and specifically leave the “details” to the executive branch (either as some nebulous presidential power, or via some rule-making provision for an executive agency). This was bad but not terrible as long as we were electing presidents who were within a standard deviation of the ‘center’ of the political spectrum. However, Trump is a major outlier, and now it is readily apparent that Congress’ approach of letting the executive branch decide most things for itself isn’t actually a really good idea.

    Even going back to the difference between Trump’s use of tariffs and Biden’s student debt cancellation efforts, it is clear that Biden’s policy, while objectively of very dubious legality, didn’t move the macroeconomic needle. Trump’s policies, on the other hand, even if they turn out to be completely legal (which I’m not sure they will), are rather painful object lesson on why Congress needs to actually do their jobs with a bit more effort.

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  • Michael June 13, 2025, 6:30 pm

    “ a moderately large hit to our credibility as a nation, which will fade over time…”

    This won’t fade over time. It is a fundamental shift.

    For 80 years, the U.S. leveraged the “exorbitant privilege” of issuing the world’s reserve currency, controlling global financial institutions, and dictating economic rules to its advantage. It financed deficits at favourable rates, imposed sanctions at will, and maintained trade imbalances – only to accuse others of “ripping off the U.S.”

    For 80 years US “allies” have followed Washington into every war, even the most reckless ones – some not out of necessity, but as a gesture of loyalty and friendship. Yet instead of reciprocating, the U.S. has turned on its closest allies, imposing punitive tariffs even on countries that don’t even run trade deficits with America. These nations now see the reality of this one-sided relationship and are actively securing greater independence from U.S. influence.

    Even if future administrations attempt to reverse course – and there’s no guarantee they’ll be any less volatile, given how openly the probable 2028 Republican candidate has disparaged your so-called allies, it will be too little, too late.

    The damage is done.

    Encouraging Russia to threaten NATO members?

    Sorry, the world is already moving on…

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    • Frank June 13, 2025, 6:44 pm

      This is correct. I am from the uk. We are actively trying to remove as much influence that USA has over us

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  • Frank June 13, 2025, 6:42 pm

    I’ve enjoyed buying my favourite ETFs and individual stocks as this has happened. Buying stuff on discount is what life is about :-)

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  • Eric Hughes June 13, 2025, 6:50 pm

    This is such an excellent and useful article. Thanks MMM, for putting your time and energy into it.

    Still…I’m not sure why you felt the need at the end to draw a dangerously false equivalence between the NYT and Fox News. The NYT is a deeply serious news organization that pursues facts and truth; it is one of our great journalistic enterprises. Meanwhile, Fox News is essentially a propaganda network that subverts the truth in service of a political agenda. Claiming that organizations like these are two sides of the same coin is just obviously wrong, and you’re way too smart to actually believe it.

    To me, it feels like you’re trying to head off at the pass the criticism that you felt would come from the publication of this article, from those loyal to Trump (and therefore his tariffs), by throwing them a bone and convincing them of your even-handedness and reasonableness. This just doesn’t work. You should fearlessly speak the truth about this, just as you about other things, and let the haters hate if they will.

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  • Kp June 13, 2025, 8:00 pm

    Hi Pete – another great post – always look forward to them (even though they are far fewer than in the past) my wife n I have followed you n Carl for years. We have followed so much of your advice as well as Jl Collins. My wife stepped way from the day to day grind about 9 months ago and I am part time plus – and getting ready to step away in early oct for a full year total break and have put cash away to bridge us until she can collect SS. We have separate funds set up to cover us and are currently using the marketplace for health care and have $ put away to cover that. We live below our means and enjoy just simple things and since a bit of a health heart scare a few years ago follow pretty much a plant based whole food diet
    that is pretty much inflation proof (stay to the perimeter of the grocery store) and your bill is pretty low.. my point I guess is that yes we are a bit worried about all the turmoil now but because we have followed what you have preached are pretty well set to just shut the “noise” off and live our life – we can only control what we can ….keep up the great work – my wife n I are going on a road trip in October along Route 66 and on the way back to MI may be headed thru your neck of the woods in Longmont if we do one place we want to see is your work co op space –

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  • April June 14, 2025, 6:10 am

    There is zero chance of using tarrifs to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US. I work in traditional industry and observe the sharp decline in average US labor quality. And if you go to a Chinese factory these days you see the best workers. Elon is no dummy and he saw it himself first hand and maybe that was part of the reason he had a fight with Trump. Cook is no dummy either. Decades of investment and emphasis on STEM and manufacturing pays off. In the US, smart people like you and me rarely go to manufacturing and if we feel done and we try to retire early and have fun. Average people just enjoy what we have and don’t worry about it. We are lucky to enjoy all the nice high quality and cost effective things made in China.

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